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Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:31:00 - [1] After the 5th thread about Ambulation today, I decided to throw together a quick thread that covers most the questions folks seem to be asking. Before folks jump all over me from either side - no, I don't personally care about Ambulation, but neither do I think it's a bad idea. That said: Stuff. Dev post: Ambulation will be at fanfest Long Article on TenTonHammer Slashdot Article Older Video showing Characters and Environments Long video focusing on characters & customizations Dev post: Housing Dev post: Ambulation not manditory. Also - Ambulation will not add lag. Dev post: There will be bars; will not be dancing Dev post: Environments will be customized by race Dev post: Early ambulation build runs on DirectX 9, Shader model 3.0 on Windows XP. That's all I had time to search out, for the moment. If anyone else has any other documented, referanced information, please feel free to post it and I'll edit it in to the beginning. Hopefully this way we can just link one thread at people who keep asking the same questions, rather than 10 threads. ----------------
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 13:58:00 - [2] Originally by: sableye nice work but I was hoping this would be some new update :) Judging from the number of threads asking questions about it, most of this is a new update for most folks :p As an aside, does anyone know a way to work eve-search to filter by a search word AND dev posts only? ----------------
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 14:07:00 - [3] Originally by: knifee Ring Ring, paging Mr Chribba to the thread, page for Mr. Chribba. No no. I learned earlier - you've got to leave a treat out for him if you want him to come. ----------------
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 20:35:00 - [4] Originally by: Chribba No you can't atm. You used to be able to do that, but with the new engine that feature wasn't added when it was changed for speed. I might add that when I have time but it would require me to rewrite my modules again as well as redesign the database to include dev/non-dev flags. Ah well, I'll just keep diggin for more "walking" dev posts the hard way :p Thanks heaps, Chribba - you rock socks. ----------------
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.22 21:38:00 - [5] Update: Added many new links. I also have gained a new level of respect for the patience of Devs when they actually answer questions on the forums. Some of those threads are scary! ----------------
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.23 05:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Jinx Barker I must add: I did not see anything on CORPSE PICKLING JARS - will they be in?! Well, there's corpse polishing - so maybe there's hope for corpse pickling. :D ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.23 12:05:00 - [7] Updated: Made it a bit easier on the eyes, added several new links. If anyone else can think of/find any missing official information, please let me know. As an aside, after having read every single post Eris has saved on Eve-Search, I feel like I've come to understand her slightly more. Thus, I leave out a bit of Eris Bait¬ in the hopes of getting an answer to the main question I've seen left unanswered so far: Will trade commodities have a use in Ambulation? IE: Exotic Dancers, Cigarettes, et cetera. Eris Bait¬ follows: ---- --- Now we play the waiting game... ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 05:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Ruze I'd also like to see fighting rinks While they've said it's possible in the future, I'd say it's a distant future based on this post: Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia A lot of the suggested scenarioªs rely heavily on character to character interaction, bashing someoneªs head in with a pool stick (I donªt play pool so its a stick) comes down to 2 highly realistic and graphics heavy characters interacting with eachother that also needs to be realistic and look good. Programming that and doing the art(I mean just finding the motioncapture actors who wants to be bashed with sticks will be a challenge. We want it realistic, we want to see blood if we go for all out violence. Well, I would.) for it could easily take 6 months. And then weªd also have a way of explaining people not dying from it and design a combat system for in station. Add another year because we want to do more moves and not always repeat the same one. We also want to keep it realistic and not early streetfighter like. For the first realise this would be simply too much, Ambulation is an addition to EVE and not a totally new game with itªs own combat system. We wonªt exclude it from the future but we are already building up a completly new environment, with itªs own pathfinding, own controls, and new gamelogic, and we are laying down the foundations for more. So it sounds like they do want to add some type of combat mechanic, but that it's at least 3 expansions down the road. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 08:02:00 - [9] Originally by: Jinx Barker Edited by: Jinx Barker on 24/07/2008 06:24:28 1) Sticky this thread! 2) Eris, Eris..... Eeeeeerrrriiiiissssss!!!!! Eris!!!!!!!!!! - what about my corpse pickling jar? Is it coming, will it come? We need a PUBLIC way/or PRIVATE whatever, we need a WAY to display corpses. EDIT: Where is the "Dev Bait?" Turn on images, it's in the post that mentions hoping for Eris to swing by this thread. Hint: I made your post more Eris-friendly, too. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 11:39:00 - [10] More links added. As always, if anyone finds anything I've missed so far - post away. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 15:29:00 - [11] Hey, yay - we got glue. Cheers, whichever mod did that :) I've finished combing through the archives, raiding google, and generally scouring for info, and I think I can reasonably say that I've got everything of real relevance posted into the first thread. That said, feel free to prove me wrong :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 15:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Mr Show Hey hey, great post. I'm sure this info is in there somewhere but didn't see a specific link for it: When? Any official date, official estimate? I remember seeing somewhere something about late 2008? There's a few different articles that say 2008. Since December is the last expansion that's going to happen for 2008, it'll be then if it does happen. However, only the early interviews give that date - the later ones don't mention a date at all, so it's possible it got pushed back. That said, they've promised a playable demo at fanfest, so there's still hope. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:28:00 - [13] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? You are now my hero ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 16:35:00 - [14] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I didn¦t have images activated so I missed the bait, trade commodities will be in Ambulation but maybe not in the way you expect, they might change from the type trade commodities to something else. We will have Exotic Dancers which is what you really want to know right? Okay, now for the next most frequently asked question: When will it be released? Fresh Eris Bait¬ follows: ----- ----- ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.24 17:15:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia My answer lol. Fair enough, gotta save something for fan fest. Next most frequently asked question: Will attributes affect anything in ambulation? IE: Will a high cha change a character's appearance? Or will there be ambulation-related skills that benefit from said cha? ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 04:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Trying to jump onto the question train: Will there be bloodline-specific shiny things in addition to the race-specific ones? This would lead me towards believing yes, even though it doesn't say so specifically. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 08:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Neth'Rae I'm wondering that aswell.. Yeah, I'm trying to post up the questions that I saw most asked (but not answered), in the order of frequency. But, honestly, just by swinging by at all Eris has already rocked my socks. The amount of work and detail going into Ambulation is shocking, and I can't imagine how hectic her schedule must be. She's defiantly my new favorite dev. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 09:00:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Atropos Eris has departed for Finland for a few days, attending Finncon, but she will be watching the thread, even if she doesn't have time to reply Thanks for the heads up - that is one busy lady :p Of course, Atropos - you're welcome to answer the question, too :P ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 13:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Reviera Just watched the eve-fanfest video. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1274008831?bclid=1302124741&bctid=1302124567 Nice! Tho a question. What is stopping someone (that have allot of ISK) to buy up slots fast on shops etc. Block these slots, by paying rent but not rly using them. This to lower concurrence and controle the market, just becouse they can invest isk when it is released. Sure, ppl with power should be able to, but somewhere it is needed to be controlled so even new players have a chance. More than likely, they'll use the same mechanic corp offices use - if all slots in a station are taken, the rent increases on a monthly basis. If that person is willing to keep paying an ever-increasing rent, they've bought that privilege of locking down that station. And, just like with offices, it's easy enough to just move to another station - or, at worse, a jump or two away, and rent there. It'll probably be an issue for the first month or so, when every roleplayer decides to open their own "bar" - but after a month of everyone sitting alone in said personal bar it should stabilize, I imagine. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.25 14:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman I think it's actualy been very well answered based on the links in the OP. Or at least, if not pickling jar, you'll have cyrogenic display containers. And some type of polishing rag, apparently ---------------- Ambulation Answers

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.26 05:16:00 - [21] Originally by: Jinx Barker Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Originally by: Jinx Barker I did not get an answer about corpse pickling jar, Eris does not love me anymore.... I think it's actualy been very well answered based on the links in the OP. Or at least, if not pickling jar, you'll have cyrogenic display containers. Wait, what where? Point Point Point.... This un ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 05:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Tenoh This is very cool! I wonder if i could watch in window from my quarters on the station how noobs get popped outside by some jerk! I would also love station like outposts on planets... heck even cities,those air flights were cool! So when do they plant to release the date? No seeing out into "real" space at all, unfortunately. They've said there are technical reasons this will be impossible. As to release dates - early articles said 2008, later articles stopped giving a date. Since there's only one expansion left for 2008 (In Dec), if things didn't get pushed back - it'll be then. Originally by: ZephyrLexx will we be able to walk around on habitable planets and moons? Not yet, but they've specifically said they're just trying to release the simple ambulation (Which is a huge enough project by itself, given the detail and complexity they're including) this expansion, with plans to expand and add new functionality to it later. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 11:17:00 - [23] Originally by: Louis deGuerre So, when ambulation comes out, will you be allowed to change your avatar for free ? I threw something together thinking I'd change it later (how foolish!) before realizing that would cost a cool $10, which I am too greedy to spend. Ah well, at least I don't walk around with my head in a bucket. You know, I could swear I saw something that said you could - but after re-reading all the links, I discovered if I didn't imagine it, it's not here. I did some digging and couldn't re-discover the thread, either. So if anyone else has a link to a dev post/blog/article saying one way or the naught, please speak up. On the positive side, digging for that answer I did find a few new links - edited into the origional post :) As a side note: I'm running out of characters on the original post. Would any kindly forum mods mind slipping a blank post or two from me into the beginning of the post so I can keep expanding this, if possible? :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:04:00 - [24] I'd rather meet the original. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Zinras [ You get to redesign your avatar. I believe they've either stated it at last fanfest or in a thread somewhere. Besides, your avatar was designed using the old engine and now you have a new one (Trinity). So it makes sense. I know it makes sense, and I'd be highly shocked if it weren't the case - but are you able to find any official posts/blogs/articles that specifically state it? I'm trying to keep as much speculation out of this thread as possible :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.27 12:45:00 - [26] Cheers! Missed that one. Edited it in to original. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 08:43:00 - [27] Originally by: Ruze I wonder if you'll be able to hire static NPC's like dancers and bartenders (because a podpilot can't sit behind the bar 24/7, you know))? Just noticed I missed this question - The dev post about clothing talks about hiring NPCs to give certain responses or items to certain standing/types of people, so yes. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 08:48:00 - [28] So, since Eris should be returning from the con today, I'm posting a summation of the questions that were asked while she was away - hopefully by not requiring her to re-read the whole thread, we won't have any questions missed :) Jinx Barker asks if there will be some way of publically displaying corpses in venues/corp offices. IE: A cryogenic tube or pickling jar. Lui Kai asks if a high cha change a character's appearance, or will there be ambulation-related skills that benefit from said cha. Pottsey and Zeba both ask if the exotic dancers will dance. Faraelle Brightman asks if there will be bloodline-specific shiny things in addition to the race-specific ones. Reviera asks if there will be any mechanic in place to keep a single person/corp from monopolizing all the public shops in a station. Xelios Xarxes asks if there will be male exotic dancers. HankMurphy asks if his avatar can be blind. Again, Eris if you're still reading this - thank you so much for the time and effort you've put into this project: Both on the developmental side, and the community side. Any info at all is like gold :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:11:00 - [29] Eris - you rock beyond words. This is officially the single largest chunk of info given since Ambulation was released. I'm done pestering you for answers now - will wait with baited breath till Fanfest, and keep updating this in the meanwhile :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 16:30:00 - [30] Edited by: Lui Kai on 28/07/2008 16:30:16 Originally by: cerbus Omg. You just completely destroyed the story behind my corp. Can't you just continuing to roleplay blindness, like you're doing now? There's nothing to "prove" your character can see. If you're absolutly that fussed about it, just use eve voice with your corpmates when you get out of your pod and turn the monitor off - same effect. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:13:00 - [31] Edited by: Lui Kai on 28/07/2008 17:14:25 Originally by: Frozen Fallout I hope they don't fix my forum Avatar with Ambulation! :) If they do I QUITING!!! And Yes everyone gets my stuff! ...Or I will just be able to say Meh... and finely be able to shrug my shoulders :P Since you have a body in game, and there's going to be an avatar redesign for ambulation anyway - you can contract your stuff to me now Edit: I'm especially partial to exotic dancers. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 17:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Frozen Fallout Actually don't mind the fix in game :)... My pic in game is actually now fixed but I am wondering if they will be redoing the forum Avatars? My Guess is yes. Since our in-game avatars will look differently, I'd call it highly likely, yeah. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Deldrac One quetsion not answered by the links... Why? Please, please - bash it or praise it in the discussion threads. Trying very hard to keep this one information based. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.28 19:44:00 - [34] Originally by: Robrina Brun Why not? See above post - seriously. Please. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 11:03:00 - [35] Originally by: AltBier Edited by: AltBier on 29/07/2008 09:58:54 Quote: You can't add new content to Ambulation but all the content has to be produced by the players for the players. http://www.eve-search.com/thread/640689/page/all#67 I'm confused. If we can't add content, how will it be produced by the players? As in, players won't be designing new things - but all the content does have to be built and ran by players. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 13:19:00 - [36] Originally by: Zinras [pink]Would it be possible to employ your own exotic dancers for your store/corp room/whatever? They've said you will be able to employ NPCs, and that there will be exotic dancers, so I'd say this is highly likely. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 18:17:00 - [37] Damn alt keeps jumping in the way today - no matter how many times I check "default character" on Lui. This happening to anyone else? But, anyway - Dalia = me in the reply above. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 19:25:00 - [38] /sigh Well, it was nice while it lasted, anyways. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.29 22:57:00 - [39] Edited by: Lui Kai on 29/07/2008 22:59:37 Originally by: B1FF Can we play poker and other mini-games outside ambulation? Say while mining or camping or assault staging? From the posts made on it, I'd hazard a guess saying no. All the talk mentions hiring an NPC to host the gambling, which implies an office needed. Originally by: B1FF Can the tactical map be used outside ambulation or do we need to memorize it before we leave? F10 - it's already in game. If you mean the ways people have talked about using the tactical map in ambulation (CEO whiteboard type stuff), I'd presume it can be used outside, since they've not said. But they haven't yet confirmed what features the map will have at all, beyond the version already available in-pod, so it's hard to hazard a guess here. Originally by: B1FF Are poker and the tactical map even going to be in the first release? They've said the tactical map would be. They said they wanted the gambling to be, but haven't much mentioned it in about a year. If I were forced to bet on it (no pun intended) I'd imagine so, as gambling can't really require complicated mechanics of any real degree. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.30 20:10:00 - [40] Originally by: Robrina Brun I consider Lui Kai one of the said qualified individuals. As far as I had read, they hadn't mentioned anything on it.. so B1FF's response was not profitable. Cheers for that :) But my only "qualification" is to have read all that linked stuff above, and extrapolate - so take that for what it's worth. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.31 01:23:00 - [41] Edited by: Lui Kai on 31/07/2008 01:25:02 Okay, in the hopes of another appearance from everyone's favorite ambulatory lady - Here's a collection of the questions asked since Eris's last visit. Eris, if you have the time at all, any answers would be deeply appreciated Robrina Brun asks what kind of controls will we have for station 'businesses'? Aeo IV asks if Ambulation will receive it's own ESRB rating (seperate from Eve)? If so, will it be rated higher then EVE Online is? Zinras asks if it will be possible to employ your own exotic dancers for your store/corp room/whatever? And if rates will be cheaper if it's dancers you've saved on missions? Xevan Templar asks if there will be NPC faction uniforms that can purchased by players for LP. Ruze asks if captians quarters are upgradable, if the quarters are a ship fitting or a station service, if they are a ship fitting if they vary by ship size/type, if quarters can be traded between players, and if other players can be invited in to your private quarters. B1FF asks (And I throw in my vote for seeing this answered, as well) aside from walking, what will be the real draw of Ambulation, to convince people to get out of the pod, other than for novelty's sake? B1FF also asks if the features available to ambulation (gambling, tactical map, et cetera) will be available for use without getting out of the pod, or from space? Also, will the tactical map/gambling be included in the first release of Ambulation? Xevan Templar asks if corp/faction uniforms will be in the first release. Robrina Brun asks if, other than spamming local/public channels/forums, will there be a way to "advertise" for Ambulation shops/bars/casinos? Faraelle Brightman asks if the "captian's quarters" be accessable off-ship or will there be an option to just have a room in a station, for those players who would rather not see their rooms blown apart every time they pvp. Again, Eris, if you're reading this - we all appreciate any time you can spare this thread, and realize how horrifically busy you must be getting this all shined up for Fanfest. -L ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.31 20:45:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Lots o' stuff in pink Thanks heaps, Eris - you have the patience of a saint :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.02 05:52:00 - [43] Originally by: Troyd23 Edited by: Troyd23 on 02/08/2008 05:50:52 OP - Thank you! :D Welcome :) ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.04 01:36:00 - [44] Originally by: RhajKa Sorry if this has been asked before (I have tried checking different pages and can't see it anywhere) but will you be able to walk around in a POS? - if the answer is yes do the owning players get to design teh layout in anyway? Cheers Rhaj Ka This hasn't been said yes or no specifically, but as you can't dock at a POS I can't imagine how you'd be able to walk around in it, unless they significantly change the way POS work. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:12:00 - [45] Originally by: Berendas Is there a definite answer as to the inclusion of minigames in stations? I didn't have the time to read most of the thread som I'm not sure if it was mentioned. They haven't confirmed or denied that they'll be in the first release, but they've confirmed they want them in. Link is in the first post of the thread. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.05 07:12:00 - [46] Originally by: Kransthow I am not sure if this has aleady been asked but oh well. The devs said that corporations would have small coporate halls, will these be set size or can you buy/rent a bigger hall/facility. And will you be able to have a bigger corp halls/facilitys in 0.0 stations than you would find in empire. (or at least, at less expense) As far as bigger ones, they've said you'll be able to rent space in a station and control who has access to it - so setting access to corp only would achieve what you're asking for. As for whether or not the spaces will be bigger or cheaper in outposts as opposed to NPC stations, they haven't said. If I had to guess, I'd say the outpost holder will set prices for that kind of thing, as they do now for offices. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.08.16 14:03:00 - [47] Originally by: Hi Lo What's with all the dead links? eve-search.com at a lower priority than bounty posting? Just checked them all - working for me. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.09.05 06:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Morgan Brykein Wait, will there be like, shops on stations and housing and such? Yes. Read the OP. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
Lui Kai Better Than You	Posted - 2008.09.19 18:32:00 - [49] Originally by: AltBier The "Logoff, Ships" link in the OP is still a "reply-to" link. Yeah, sorry for that. I'm out of characters to edit in, and any attempt at editing turns more links that way. ---------------- Ambulation Answers

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